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		<title>By: Uranium Willy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uranium Willy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 01:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valerie

No need to be forgiven as you did or said nothing wrong. Your simply voiced your opinion which is different than mine. I may well be wrong on the matter and will need time to think it over. It is okay to have different views and I think my satire is not presented well. I think I intended, actually, to make a bit of a joke at American movie watchers who typically refuse to even try something that does not have a car chase or girl is a bikini in it. Sometimes American films are &#039;junk food&#039; if you will though not all of the time of course. I know that French cinema is influential and well made but I try to lighten up the tone of some of the reviews here. I seriously have tried to enjoy some &#039;arty&#039; things and continue to but some leave me disappointed tough the problem may lay with my inability to access the film&#039;s message while someone else may be able to. I made a joke about Woody Allen&#039;s Bergmen influenced film Interiors but to be honest I lied that movie. I was the only one of my small circle who even tried it much less liked it. I know however that not all European films are &#039;arty&#039; but I think I was making a joke that most Americans see it that way. I think I made a joke about how profound French TV commercials must be but I was not serious. 

I actually do not live in the US and have lived in China for five years and it is also a struggle here to always get films with subs. Naturally the films will have Chinese subs but many European films or Asian films outside China lack an English sub option. It is interesting, I feel, how we tend to do one of two things when we live abroad for many years, we either distance ourselves more from our culture or we struggle to retain some aspects of it. Probably a little of both has happened with em but in terms of cinema I feel I lean towards the west more than Asia. And yes, it is hard to get French or Italian films here with working English subs unless it is from a good source like the Criterion Collection and so my options become more limited. I do download films and have gotten pretty good about finding subs online but sometimes the subs do not match up to the film timing even after editing with a program that adjusts timing.

It is all interesting I feel and please know that there is an element of satire involved. My God I am preparing an article on The Mesa of Lost Women, one of the worst films ever made. If I did not approach it with humor I would descend into madness. Since I know you may be out there reading Valerie I will be more careful with my remarks about French cinema in the future, I promise. 

Bill :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valerie</p>
<p>No need to be forgiven as you did or said nothing wrong. Your simply voiced your opinion which is different than mine. I may well be wrong on the matter and will need time to think it over. It is okay to have different views and I think my satire is not presented well. I think I intended, actually, to make a bit of a joke at American movie watchers who typically refuse to even try something that does not have a car chase or girl is a bikini in it. Sometimes American films are &#8216;junk food&#8217; if you will though not all of the time of course. I know that French cinema is influential and well made but I try to lighten up the tone of some of the reviews here. I seriously have tried to enjoy some &#8216;arty&#8217; things and continue to but some leave me disappointed tough the problem may lay with my inability to access the film&#8217;s message while someone else may be able to. I made a joke about Woody Allen&#8217;s Bergmen influenced film Interiors but to be honest I lied that movie. I was the only one of my small circle who even tried it much less liked it. I know however that not all European films are &#8216;arty&#8217; but I think I was making a joke that most Americans see it that way. I think I made a joke about how profound French TV commercials must be but I was not serious. </p>
<p>I actually do not live in the US and have lived in China for five years and it is also a struggle here to always get films with subs. Naturally the films will have Chinese subs but many European films or Asian films outside China lack an English sub option. It is interesting, I feel, how we tend to do one of two things when we live abroad for many years, we either distance ourselves more from our culture or we struggle to retain some aspects of it. Probably a little of both has happened with em but in terms of cinema I feel I lean towards the west more than Asia. And yes, it is hard to get French or Italian films here with working English subs unless it is from a good source like the Criterion Collection and so my options become more limited. I do download films and have gotten pretty good about finding subs online but sometimes the subs do not match up to the film timing even after editing with a program that adjusts timing.</p>
<p>It is all interesting I feel and please know that there is an element of satire involved. My God I am preparing an article on The Mesa of Lost Women, one of the worst films ever made. If I did not approach it with humor I would descend into madness. Since I know you may be out there reading Valerie I will be more careful with my remarks about French cinema in the future, I promise. </p>
<p>Bill <img src='http://uraniumcafe-the.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 13:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I admit that I&#039;ve been a bit offended, and that I love exclamation marks, you&#039;re not the first one to tell me so :D I guess that I am always trying to add something from oral speeches in written one. I am trying not to use the exclamation mark right now! Oops did it again!
Anyway, I understand your point of view and I&#039;ve noticed many times that american cinema student kind of forced themselves to love European films because they&#039;re loved by critics. But most of the time you only get the intelectual european films while there are tons of Italian or French comedies that you could get right away and love, in Europe we have a popular culture! 
Personnally I love both (popular and arty) , I never had to force myself to watch a Fellini, I love it! And I do understand that it&#039;s a matter of taste! I love cinema and sometimes I get very aggressive defending or accusing, you see I&#039;d love a real globalisation of culture where it would be possible everywhere to watch all the films. When I lived in England and travelled back to France, I wanted to buy DVD of popular films I love, but most of the time there are no English subtitles on them. The fans of japanimation (which I also adore) make the subtitles for those who don&#039;t understand japanese, if I knew how and if I had time for that I would do it for all the cool french films you&#039;ll never see. 
About Maurice Jarre&#039;s score I love it but I think it doesn&#039;t work with the film, on the other hand I saw on a blog extract of the Eyes  without a face with portishead&#039;s music and that was creepy! I hope that you&#039;ll forgive my last &quot;emportement&quot; and I will go on reading your blog! Cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I admit that I&#8217;ve been a bit offended, and that I love exclamation marks, you&#8217;re not the first one to tell me so <img src='http://uraniumcafe-the.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  I guess that I am always trying to add something from oral speeches in written one. I am trying not to use the exclamation mark right now! Oops did it again!<br />
Anyway, I understand your point of view and I&#8217;ve noticed many times that american cinema student kind of forced themselves to love European films because they&#8217;re loved by critics. But most of the time you only get the intelectual european films while there are tons of Italian or French comedies that you could get right away and love, in Europe we have a popular culture!<br />
Personnally I love both (popular and arty) , I never had to force myself to watch a Fellini, I love it! And I do understand that it&#8217;s a matter of taste! I love cinema and sometimes I get very aggressive defending or accusing, you see I&#8217;d love a real globalisation of culture where it would be possible everywhere to watch all the films. When I lived in England and travelled back to France, I wanted to buy DVD of popular films I love, but most of the time there are no English subtitles on them. The fans of japanimation (which I also adore) make the subtitles for those who don&#8217;t understand japanese, if I knew how and if I had time for that I would do it for all the cool french films you&#8217;ll never see.<br />
About Maurice Jarre&#8217;s score I love it but I think it doesn&#8217;t work with the film, on the other hand I saw on a blog extract of the Eyes  without a face with portishead&#8217;s music and that was creepy! I hope that you&#8217;ll forgive my last &#8220;emportement&#8221; and I will go on reading your blog! Cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Uranium Willy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uranium Willy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 07:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not know if I would say I have prejudices against French films in particular anymore than Japanese or even American films that would follow the same plodding story telling style I find in many French films. I have seen quite a few French films and most were the b/w style of the 60&#039;s by people like Godard or Truffaut and I tend to like most of those and I believe I mention that in the article. I have also seen some other films I felt were too pretentious and boring as far as the story went but excelled in areas like cinematography. I would have to say my response is similar to the films of Ingmar Bergman whom I always heard so much about and tried a few films during my &#039;art&#039; film period and while the films were lovely to look at the stories drug on and on in an excruciating manner that I found difficult to enjoy. I do not know if I have to keep trying those films over and over until maybe someday I will like them. I guess part of me wishes I could like them. Another example might me Fellini. I know the guy is a genius and all that but maybe I am not a guy who likes the film work of such filmmakers. I liked Le Dolce Vita and La Strada but some of the other material I just could not follow. Like Roma. Some parts look wonderful but the the story was so vague it was painful. Some people would argue the story is deliberately vague and obfuscated. That only a few people have the refinement to analyze such films. I have the same criticism, for example, of American filmmaker David Lynch for the most part. Maybe he watched too many French films as a film student, who knows. Maybe these matters are not the case for you when you watch such films. And also the films here are not going to be of a &#039;refined&#039; and high caliber in the first place.  My God I review stuff like Astro Zombies and The Creeping Terror. I love David Lean films but do not know if I would do a write up at this blog on any of his films here. They would be out of place I feel.  

And apparently you do not like all French cinema yourself since you have some strong criticisms of Eyes Without a Face and refer to it as &#039;kitch&#039; which may well be why it wound up here in the first place, but the film seems to have a following of not only viewers but film makers who find it to be a well made and influential film. I do not think any film by Clouzet ever inspired a horror film director to fashion  a serial killer&#039;s mask in similar likeness to a character in one of his films and to me that is a sign of true greatness. 

But I doubt I will ever find a middle ground ground with anyone who ends every sentence with an exclamation mark. You even add an exclamation mark to a parenthetical statement. Geesh, chill out. They are just movies. I visited your site and see your credentials as a film student and even an actress and those are impressive but in the end film is like painting and people like what they like and there seems to be no logic to it. If anyone has read this an wants to visit Valerie&#039;s bilingual site then please do at &lt;a href=&quot;http://silverparticules.blogspot.com/2009/12/les-yeux-sans-visage-georges-franju.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Silver Particulars. &lt;/a&gt; Perhaps you can give me some recommendations of some French films I may like then. Other than Godard. Something I can approach little by little. Maybe something suitable for this site.

In closing I did get the film Blood of the Beasts by George Franju after doing the research for my post and it is quite something to be certain. Not for the squeamish or vegetarians. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not know if I would say I have prejudices against French films in particular anymore than Japanese or even American films that would follow the same plodding story telling style I find in many French films. I have seen quite a few French films and most were the b/w style of the 60&#8217;s by people like Godard or Truffaut and I tend to like most of those and I believe I mention that in the article. I have also seen some other films I felt were too pretentious and boring as far as the story went but excelled in areas like cinematography. I would have to say my response is similar to the films of Ingmar Bergman whom I always heard so much about and tried a few films during my &#8216;art&#8217; film period and while the films were lovely to look at the stories drug on and on in an excruciating manner that I found difficult to enjoy. I do not know if I have to keep trying those films over and over until maybe someday I will like them. I guess part of me wishes I could like them. Another example might me Fellini. I know the guy is a genius and all that but maybe I am not a guy who likes the film work of such filmmakers. I liked Le Dolce Vita and La Strada but some of the other material I just could not follow. Like Roma. Some parts look wonderful but the the story was so vague it was painful. Some people would argue the story is deliberately vague and obfuscated. That only a few people have the refinement to analyze such films. I have the same criticism, for example, of American filmmaker David Lynch for the most part. Maybe he watched too many French films as a film student, who knows. Maybe these matters are not the case for you when you watch such films. And also the films here are not going to be of a &#8216;refined&#8217; and high caliber in the first place.  My God I review stuff like Astro Zombies and The Creeping Terror. I love David Lean films but do not know if I would do a write up at this blog on any of his films here. They would be out of place I feel.  </p>
<p>And apparently you do not like all French cinema yourself since you have some strong criticisms of Eyes Without a Face and refer to it as &#8216;kitch&#8217; which may well be why it wound up here in the first place, but the film seems to have a following of not only viewers but film makers who find it to be a well made and influential film. I do not think any film by Clouzet ever inspired a horror film director to fashion  a serial killer&#8217;s mask in similar likeness to a character in one of his films and to me that is a sign of true greatness. </p>
<p>But I doubt I will ever find a middle ground ground with anyone who ends every sentence with an exclamation mark. You even add an exclamation mark to a parenthetical statement. Geesh, chill out. They are just movies. I visited your site and see your credentials as a film student and even an actress and those are impressive but in the end film is like painting and people like what they like and there seems to be no logic to it. If anyone has read this an wants to visit Valerie&#8217;s bilingual site then please do at <a href="http://silverparticules.blogspot.com/2009/12/les-yeux-sans-visage-georges-franju.html" rel="nofollow">Silver Particulars. </a> Perhaps you can give me some recommendations of some French films I may like then. Other than Godard. Something I can approach little by little. Maybe something suitable for this site.</p>
<p>In closing I did get the film Blood of the Beasts by George Franju after doing the research for my post and it is quite something to be certain. Not for the squeamish or vegetarians.</p>
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		<title>By: Valerie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valerie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Dec 2009 19:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have lots of prejudices on French cinema, and French acting, if the acting in Repulsion is &quot;spacey&quot;, it&#039;s an exception, and existentialism was a current of the fifties, there were lots of  films before and after! You might try to watch Renoirs one day,Clouzots or Melvilles ( they might amaze you!)
About the film , if the acting is down to earth, I was extremly disapointed! I thought that the music which is good by itself gave an ironic distance to what&#039;s going on, and that there was no way we could identify with the characters! All in all the film is kitsch and must be loved for its kitschness because it wouldn&#039;t frighten a child!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have lots of prejudices on French cinema, and French acting, if the acting in Repulsion is &#8220;spacey&#8221;, it&#8217;s an exception, and existentialism was a current of the fifties, there were lots of  films before and after! You might try to watch Renoirs one day,Clouzots or Melvilles ( they might amaze you!)<br />
About the film , if the acting is down to earth, I was extremly disapointed! I thought that the music which is good by itself gave an ironic distance to what&#8217;s going on, and that there was no way we could identify with the characters! All in all the film is kitsch and must be loved for its kitschness because it wouldn&#8217;t frighten a child!</p>
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