Comments on: A STUDY IN DISAPPOINTMENT: QUENTIN TARANTINO’S INGLOURIOUS BASTERDS AND THREE FILMS IT TRIED TO BE… MORE OR LESS: THE DIRTY DOZEN – CROSS OF IRON – THE INGLORIOUS BASTARDS http://uraniumcafe-the.com/2009/12/30/a-study-in-disappointment-quentin-tarantinos-inglourious-basterds-and-three-films-it-tried-to-be-more-or-less-the-dirty-dozen-cross-of-iron-the-inglorious-bastards/ Fri, 03 Sep 2010 16:56:55 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Uranium Willy http://uraniumcafe-the.com/2009/12/30/a-study-in-disappointment-quentin-tarantinos-inglourious-basterds-and-three-films-it-tried-to-be-more-or-less-the-dirty-dozen-cross-of-iron-the-inglorious-bastards/#comment-3822 Uranium Willy Wed, 17 Mar 2010 05:28:15 +0000 http://uraniumcafe-the.com/?p=8147#comment-3822 I will give it one more go. I actually WANT to like it but usually that is not how movies work. You like it or hate it for no discernible reason. I think the issue for me was that I was expecting either a WWII Pulp Fiction type story or a war yard just like The Dirty Dozen with a Tarantino twist. I was very disappointed to be honest but many people love the film and call it Tarantino's best work. I have heard some rumor his next project may be a western. I hope it works. I still think he has some great movies left in him. I will give it one more go. I actually WANT to like it but usually that is not how movies work. You like it or hate it for no discernible reason. I think the issue for me was that I was expecting either a WWII Pulp Fiction type story or a war yard just like The Dirty Dozen with a Tarantino twist. I was very disappointed to be honest but many people love the film and call it Tarantino’s best work. I have heard some rumor his next project may be a western. I hope it works. I still think he has some great movies left in him.

]]> By: Bunche http://uraniumcafe-the.com/2009/12/30/a-study-in-disappointment-quentin-tarantinos-inglourious-basterds-and-three-films-it-tried-to-be-more-or-less-the-dirty-dozen-cross-of-iron-the-inglorious-bastards/#comment-3815 Bunche Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:52:51 +0000 http://uraniumcafe-the.com/?p=8147#comment-3815 I didn't dislike it quite as much as you did, but I do hear you. My review can be found at http://buncheness.blogspot.com/2009/12/inglourious-basterds-2009.html and the more distance there is between me and the movie, I realize once and for all that I will definitely never sit through it again. Not even for the fine performance of Christoph Waltz. I didn’t dislike it quite as much as you did, but I do hear you. My review can be found at http://buncheness.blogspot.com/2009/12/inglourious-basterds-2009.html and the more distance there is between me and the movie, I realize once and for all that I will definitely never sit through it again. Not even for the fine performance of Christoph Waltz.

]]> By: Uranium Willy http://uraniumcafe-the.com/2009/12/30/a-study-in-disappointment-quentin-tarantinos-inglourious-basterds-and-three-films-it-tried-to-be-more-or-less-the-dirty-dozen-cross-of-iron-the-inglorious-bastards/#comment-1965 Uranium Willy Sat, 02 Jan 2010 16:59:27 +0000 http://uraniumcafe-the.com/?p=8147#comment-1965 I did not really hate this film at all. Maybe it sounds that way and I should clear that up in at the end as the article is still in the works. He is stilla good director in my book but I did not feel the story was very tight and for the film's length some areas drug on tediously, in my opinion anyway. I have seen long films before such as Lawrence of Arabia and Dr. Zhivago and those films were mostly drama and dialog. I enjoyed them thoroughly and have seen them over and over. Why I did not click with this one may remain a mystery even to myself. MAybe, to be fair, I should give it one more viewing in a couple weeks. Thanks for the comment and glad you liked it. Bill I did not really hate this film at all. Maybe it sounds that way and I should clear that up in at the end as the article is still in the works. He is stilla good director in my book but I did not feel the story was very tight and for the film’s length some areas drug on tediously, in my opinion anyway. I have seen long films before such as Lawrence of Arabia and Dr. Zhivago and those films were mostly drama and dialog. I enjoyed them thoroughly and have seen them over and over. Why I did not click with this one may remain a mystery even to myself. MAybe, to be fair, I should give it one more viewing in a couple weeks.

Thanks for the comment and glad you liked it.

Bill

]]> By: Eric http://uraniumcafe-the.com/2009/12/30/a-study-in-disappointment-quentin-tarantinos-inglourious-basterds-and-three-films-it-tried-to-be-more-or-less-the-dirty-dozen-cross-of-iron-the-inglorious-bastards/#comment-1964 Eric Sat, 02 Jan 2010 15:28:16 +0000 http://uraniumcafe-the.com/?p=8147#comment-1964 I loved Inglorious Basterds. It surpassed all my expectations. I went in with very high expectations but managed to avoid learning much about the movie. Thus when I quickly realized I was watching a spagetti western set during WW2 and the 'Dirty Dozen' plot was more of a subplot I was still riveted. I loved the dialog. I thought this was his best film since Pulp Fiction (did not care for either Kill Bill film and thought Death Proof was OK; Jackie Brown is excellent). So I went into it expecting a very different film from what he made so I can understand the disappointment. I experienced much of the same emotions you did when I saw Avatar: he spent over a decade working on it and this is the story and dialog he came up with? I loved Inglorious Basterds. It surpassed all my expectations. I went in with very high expectations but managed to avoid learning much about the movie. Thus when I quickly realized I was watching a spagetti western set during WW2 and the ‘Dirty Dozen’ plot was more of a subplot I was still riveted. I loved the dialog. I thought this was his best film since Pulp Fiction (did not care for either Kill Bill film and thought Death Proof was OK; Jackie Brown is excellent). So I went into it expecting a very different film from what he made so I can understand the disappointment.

I experienced much of the same emotions you did when I saw Avatar: he spent over a decade working on it and this is the story and dialog he came up with?

]]> By: Uranium Willy http://uraniumcafe-the.com/2009/12/30/a-study-in-disappointment-quentin-tarantinos-inglourious-basterds-and-three-films-it-tried-to-be-more-or-less-the-dirty-dozen-cross-of-iron-the-inglorious-bastards/#comment-1941 Uranium Willy Thu, 31 Dec 2009 08:09:34 +0000 http://uraniumcafe-the.com/?p=8147#comment-1941 Hey. I am honored you read it over and had a comment. I am saving some positive remarks for the end of the article.I am in a reflective state as I near the end. As I said the performance by Christoph Waltz was great and the best of the film in my opinion. The scene you where he chokes the female spy is great. I am not saying, of course, that there are not perfect moments. My problem might be with what it is that is connecting those perfects together. The sudden shoot out scene in the tavern is great and yet lasts all of ten seconds. There is a scene prior to that of long and tedious dialogs that I simply did not enjoy. Many people did of course. I did not find the Tarantino quips and jabs as amusing in German and French as in English. Some scenes were great as far as the usage of language went. the scene where Col Landa suddenly begins speaking fluent Italian to Lt. Raine and the other two spies was well done. But the film was long and those scenes were few and far between. Now many people had the same issues with Jackie Brown, a film I thought was great and have seen three or four times. Yet for me something was missing in this film and one barometer I use is that, unlike Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction, I have no desire to see it over. I am sure Tarantino was paying homage to old war films of the late 60's and 70's here, like The Dirty Dozen, Cross of Iron, Where Eagles Dare and Kelly's Heroes. Those films are not without flaws of course but they evoked some certain atmosphere or mood that Tarantino, a good filmmaker, seemed to have missed or purposely avoided. Lets be clear that I did not hate the film nor am I saying it is as vacuous as a Michael Bay film (whose films are not as bad as everyone makes them out to be, they are simply Hollywood formula action films with mega budgets) but I was left wanting and even could not finish in one setting even though I started the film at 8 PM (another bad sign for me). Some critics I like reading usually, like Roger Ebert, loved the film and praise it. But if I had to choose between Inglourious Basterds or The Dirty Dozen or Where Eagles Dare as great war thrillers I would have to choose the latter two. Those films could be , and have been, criticized too. Ebert criticized the violence in The Dirty Dozen though it is all pretty tame by today's standards. I was hoping for a gripping story and I need not get it. I d not need fast editing or short scenes either. I even prefer scenes that do not cut too soon. I liked that in Jackie Brown and the Kill Bill flicks. I did not like it here or in Death Proof. Anyway, glad I selected a movie you have seen and had an opinion on. I accidentally published the post too soon however and am still working on the last two films. Watching the 1978 The Inglorous Bastards now to get a feel for that one. See ya and Happy New Year. Hey. I am honored you read it over and had a comment. I am saving some positive remarks for the end of the article.I am in a reflective state as I near the end. As I said the performance by Christoph Waltz was great and the best of the film in my opinion. The scene you where he chokes the female spy is great. I am not saying, of course, that there are not perfect moments. My problem might be with what it is that is connecting those perfects together. The sudden shoot out scene in the tavern is great and yet lasts all of ten seconds. There is a scene prior to that of long and tedious dialogs that I simply did not enjoy. Many people did of course. I did not find the Tarantino quips and jabs as amusing in German and French as in English. Some scenes were great as far as the usage of language went. the scene where Col Landa suddenly begins speaking fluent Italian to Lt. Raine and the other two spies was well done. But the film was long and those scenes were few and far between. Now many people had the same issues with Jackie Brown, a film I thought was great and have seen three or four times. Yet for me something was missing in this film and one barometer I use is that, unlike Jackie Brown and Pulp Fiction, I have no desire to see it over.

I am sure Tarantino was paying homage to old war films of the late 60′s and 70′s here, like The Dirty Dozen, Cross of Iron, Where Eagles Dare and Kelly’s Heroes. Those films are not without flaws of course but they evoked some certain atmosphere or mood that Tarantino, a good filmmaker, seemed to have missed or purposely avoided. Lets be clear that I did not hate the film nor am I saying it is as vacuous as a Michael Bay film (whose films are not as bad as everyone makes them out to be, they are simply Hollywood formula action films with mega budgets) but I was left wanting and even could not finish in one setting even though I started the film at 8 PM (another bad sign for me). Some critics I like reading usually, like Roger Ebert, loved the film and praise it. But if I had to choose between Inglourious Basterds or The Dirty Dozen or Where Eagles Dare as great war thrillers I would have to choose the latter two. Those films could be , and have been, criticized too. Ebert criticized the violence in The Dirty Dozen though it is all pretty tame by today’s standards.

I was hoping for a gripping story and I need not get it. I d not need fast editing or short scenes either. I even prefer scenes that do not cut too soon. I liked that in Jackie Brown and the Kill Bill flicks. I did not like it here or in Death Proof.

Anyway, glad I selected a movie you have seen and had an opinion on. I accidentally published the post too soon however and am still working on the last two films. Watching the 1978 The Inglorous Bastards now to get a feel for that one.

See ya and Happy New Year.

]]> By: robert clutter http://uraniumcafe-the.com/2009/12/30/a-study-in-disappointment-quentin-tarantinos-inglourious-basterds-and-three-films-it-tried-to-be-more-or-less-the-dirty-dozen-cross-of-iron-the-inglorious-bastards/#comment-1931 robert clutter Wed, 30 Dec 2009 19:22:55 +0000 http://uraniumcafe-the.com/?p=8147#comment-1931 well, i suppose if you didnt like it you didnt like, but in a day and age where micheal bay can make a blockbuster with nothing more then racial slurs, explosions, and slow motion sceenes of meagan fox(yeah, i know its fun watching her run in slowmo, but it doesnt make a good movie...) its a breath of fresh air to know that someone is at least trying to make a movie based off of word play, even if it didnt quite tickle your fancy. maybe it could be a little slow and sometimes plodding, but i loved it. if nothing else, the movie should get an oscar for shooting hitler in the face. not just once, but until he is unrecognizable. its like mel brookes meets total recall. also, the more i think about it, this was not so much an action film, but a thriller, which i feel is something tarantino may have perfected with this movie. the emotion and sincerety i felt that was displayed by his characters( allied and otherwise) was icredible. when that nazi chokes that chick, he looks like he really means it, and when brad pitt and his cohorts are interrogating nazis, they show the true zeal and gallows humor that begins to seep up from the deep dark corners of our reptilian brain stem. these are just my own prattlings, and im over the violent fury i would fly into when i would hear kentucky residents who didnt graduate from middle school get up from their seats in the theater and hoot and guffaw about "wut a stoopid moovee, thur wuddnt hardlee no acshun a'tall"(saddly i still suffer from this affliction in regards to Watchmen, the best movie of the last decade if you ask me, and if you dont think so then you probably smell and your hobbies include hating democracy, kicking baby seals, and telling children theres no santa clause...) but apparently this flick wasnt for everyone, so if you didnt like it i suppose your entitled to your oppinion, but i think ol' q.t. hit the nail on the head. well, i suppose if you didnt like it you didnt like, but in a day and age where micheal bay can make a blockbuster with nothing more then racial slurs, explosions, and slow motion sceenes of meagan fox(yeah, i know its fun watching her run in slowmo, but it doesnt make a good movie…) its a breath of fresh air to know that someone is at least trying to make a movie based off of word play, even if it didnt quite tickle your fancy. maybe it could be a little slow and sometimes plodding, but i loved it. if nothing else, the movie should get an oscar for shooting hitler in the face. not just once, but until he is unrecognizable. its like mel brookes meets total recall. also, the more i think about it, this was not so much an action film, but a thriller, which i feel is something tarantino may have perfected with this movie. the emotion and sincerety i felt that was displayed by his characters( allied and otherwise) was icredible.
when that nazi chokes that chick, he looks like he really means it, and when brad pitt and his cohorts are interrogating nazis, they show the true zeal and gallows humor that begins to seep up from the deep dark corners of our reptilian brain stem. these are just my own prattlings, and im over the violent fury i would fly into when i would hear kentucky residents who didnt graduate from middle school get up from their seats in the theater and hoot and guffaw about “wut a stoopid moovee, thur wuddnt hardlee no acshun a’tall”(saddly i still suffer from this affliction in regards to Watchmen, the best movie of the last decade if you ask me, and if you dont think so then you probably smell and your hobbies include hating democracy, kicking baby seals, and telling children theres no santa clause…) but apparently this flick wasnt for everyone, so if you didnt like it i suppose your entitled to your oppinion, but i think ol’ q.t. hit the nail on the head.

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